Psionics.

[almightyzentaco]

Personally, I don't buy it.

In my experience the physical and spiritual realms are mostly seperate, with a tenuous connection between them.
I have never seen any example of psionics in myself or others.

Also, it seems to me that the part of the universe responsible for physical manifestation is so deeply unconcious we would have almost no hope of reaching it. And even if it was reached, making it bend to your will seems unlikely, as I'm sure
it's pretty dead set on running things how they are going.

Also it seems a little immoral to me, to manhandle the universe in such a manner, if it is even possible at all.

[Mokona]

Is that a stand alone statement or is this part of something else?
Lol, dude. We can already manifest physically in other universes, how much harder could it be to manifest here?
Not only that, but have I mentioned that I've been interacting with vampires in other universes?
I'm just mentioning that sort of thing to sort of give you a kick in the knockers, and perhaps make you feel a bit more free about manifesting. All you really need is someone like me that is ready to go the extra mile to figure it out.

I had a vampire touch me, it was wierd! No one mentioned that people could learn to interact with the God-body so quickly, godamn.

You have a moral issue against manifesting, that's silly. If it wasn't meant to be it wouldn't be a possibility. Not to say that your wrong. I just want to hear why you think doing fun stuff like that is "bad".

[Aethyreal]

Lol calm down Mokona. I think he suggests a good point about basically the ethics of the whole thing.

I do not hear that term often so I had to look it up:

1. is the study and/or practice of using the mind to induce paranormal phenomena. Examples of this include telepathy, telekinesis, and other workings of the outside world through the psyche.
2. Adj: pertaining to the telepathic, psychic, or paranormal

It's a very loose term. What are specifically are you referring to that you have not experienced- strictly physical material stuff manifesting, telekinesis, etc or are you actually talking about the whole range of psychic ability? I have not had experience with the strictly phsyical things either, at least not in a direct mind over matter fashion, but I have had firsthand accounts told to me over the years of great beings physically manifesting in ones room, or manifesting objects out of thin air. I believe them to be sincere, and gives me hope that that sort of thing is possible. I do not think it is a stretch

I do know that the mind can be used to bring about events in the physical word through the power of intention, often mixed with some releasing work done. It's not direct like telekinesis is, but it is often very direct in terms of "speaking" to you. I hope to write up something on it soon.

Personally I do not have much desire to master telekinesis for one. I think that time would be better spent on abilities of the senses that are more easily accessed and developed gradually. I would also be worried about if I had such a power if it could manifest through my unconscious and cause harm.

[almightyzentaco]

I was referring to the supposed ability to move physical objects with the mind.

[Mokona]

That's doable. Just not likely. Sorry if I came off crazy. I'm wired off of coffee.

[Spectral Dragon]

I was referring to the supposed ability to move physical objects with the mind.

Done it myself, though mind nothing uber fancy

[Mokona]

Is Psi/Psionics just a term for more physical manifestations? I've seen it written that people sortoff project using Psi. I do understand that termonology can be a bit misunderstood between different groups of people, though.

Almighty,

Have you considered that chi balls easily made between the palms of the hands also = Psi balls? That would mean that the first stage is simple already!
Perhaps better perception of energy and subtle realms, as well as the mind better contributes to this sort of science than any sort of considerable power or "charge" a person has. Although I'm sure it helps to be very powerful or very "charged"

What may do the trick is connecting to the source of this reality and using the information within to complete seemingly difficult tasks like levitating small objects. I know, i know: "Easier said than done."

[Spectral Dragon]

Is Psi/Psionics just a term for more physical manifestations? I've seen it written that people sortoff project using Psi. I do understand that termonology can be a bit misunderstood between different groups of people, though.

Almighty,

Have you considered that chi balls easily made between the palms of the hands also = Psi balls? That would mean that the first stage is simple already!
Perhaps better perception of energy and subtle realms, as well as the mind better contributes to this sort of science than any sort of considerable power or "charge" a person has. Although I'm sure it helps to be very powerful or very "charged"

What may do the trick is connecting to the source of this reality and using the information within to complete seemingly difficult tasks like levitating small objects. I know, i know: "Easier said than done."

Terminology is definitly a major gap for groups.

I tend to think of Psionic energy as energy that is mentally directed and doesn't (seem to) come from Qi or Ether, usually manifesting closer to the physical realm.

[HI- C]

We can already manifest physically in other universes, how much harder could it be to manifest here?

'TOUGHER' anyway.